I am in search of the poem in the movie, "A Walk to Remember" when the girl is in the hospital and her boyfriend reads the poem. It starts out, " Love is always patient and kind. It is never jelous. Love is never boastful or conceeded. It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense. It is not resentful." I just want to know the title and who wrote it and possibly if that is the entire poem. If any one can help, that would be greatly appretiated. Thanks.

Love is always patient and kind. It is never jelous. Love is never boastful or conceeded. It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense. It is not resentful




......that isn't a poem its is a verse in the bible

"Love is always patient and kind..."



Love is always patient and kind; it is never jealous. Love
is never boastful or conceited...

It is never rude or selfish...It does not take offense, and it
is not resentful.

Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins but
delights in truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to
hope, and to endure whatever comes.
~1 Corinthians 13:4-8

I cam across a paraphrase of the biblical quotation ' in poetic form' , no author accredited, which may be what you heard in the film - it may even have been written for the film, for all I know, but that wasn't my source.
It goes:

Love is always patient and kind.
It is never jealous.
Love is never boastful or concieted.
It is never rude or selfish.
It does not take offence and is not resentful.
Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins,
but delights in the truth.
It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope,
and to endure whatever comes.

I know the poem from " a walk to remeber" and I love it , but i noticed that the dads reads it from the bible and then i realized it was Corinthians 13:4.8 but when i went to the passage it was different:
love is alwalys patient and kind;
loveis not jealous or boastful;
it is not arrogant or rude;
love does not insists on its own ways;
it is not irretable or resentful;
it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. love bears all things, believes all things,hop0e all things,endure all things.

So I was just wondering who changed and revised it?

It depends on which translation you are reading.

Charity suffereth long and is kind. King James (AV)

Love is patient; love is kind. NEB

Love is patient and kind. RSV

Love is always patient and kind. Jerusalem.

This love of which I speak is slow to lose patience - it looks for a way of being constructive. Phillips.

And that's just the five translations of one verse from my bookshelves

it is also in patch adams too, thats where i first heard it and fell in love with it!!! i would never have thought that something like that would have come out of the bible though, i have been going to a catholic school since kindy so its coming up to 13 years, and yet i would never have imagined it

Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy.
Love is never boastful, nor conceited, nor rude;
It is not self-seeking, nor easily angered.
It keeps no record of wrongdoing.
It does not delight in evil,
But rejoices in the truth.
It always protects, trusts, hopes, and preserves.
There is nothing love cannot face;
There is no limit to its faith, hope, and endurance.
In a word, there are three things that last forever:
Faith, hope, and love;
But the greatest of them all is love.

That is the whole thing, and it is a verse in the bible. It is in the Corinthians chapter 1 i beleive.

i'm sure somebody must have answered this already....

it's in 1 CORINTHIANS 13, HOLY BIBLE (The New American Bible)
the new Catholic Translation

The author is God

>The author is God

[www.vatican.va]

[av1611.com]

[www.gutenberg.org]

...well all of the quotes that are on here that people say are from the bible still are not right but this is the direct quote from the bible that was revied for the movie.

Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, is not pompous, it is not inflated, it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not broad over injury, it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices within the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.

1 Corinthians 13: 4-8

Well the quotes I gave were all from bibles I have in the house. I agree they're still not right 'cos they're all in English. I don't have the original Greek that St Paul wrote but that would be the only truely correct version.

In the beautiful words of King James' Bible the reference is, as Linda writes, to charity. I wonder what the original word translates as. There must be a difference between the idea of love and the idea of charity. Does anyone know the actual Greek word? The Phillips translation, again pace Linda's post, looks a bit dodgy.

At the time of King James, charity meant loving-kindness, not giving money to good causes.

The Phillips was a war time translation done for the benefit of young, working class Londoners, whom Phillips discovered could not understand the language used in the King James version. He made the translation to read in the informal style of the original Greek. At the time there were no modern translations readily available to the youths he was working with.

I just wanted to say thank you to whom ever posted this I have been wanting this verse for my sons and I feel so blessed right at this moment thanks for sharing with all those who seek. God Bless you

It's not a poem... it's a bible verse:-D

actually it isn't a poem it is written in the bible if u want to read the rest of the verse just open your bible in I Corinthians 13:4. Itz better if you'd open up a different bible, it may not be the exact words but what does it means says in that whole verse

Myla, and Kyla, click on "flat view" and read the posts above yours.


Les

i just googled to find out the same thing ..
as far as i am corcernd everyone is right ,there are different verisons of the bible so the verse will be slightly different ...
the truth is, no matter which one u read the passage is beautiful !!!!

that is the most beautiful verse in the bible, if only we all lived by that love, we would all have real love

who cares it could be a poem

Paul: The word in the original is agape, αγάπη , meaning divine, unconditional love.

For more see also:

[jesuit.ls.luc.edu]
[mb-soft.com]
[www.christiancourier.com]

V.



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It's no good, if you can't eat it.

what does that mean

It means you need to hold down your Shift key and left-click the link(s).

where about in Patch adams does the verse/poem appear? i have seen it in "a walk to remember" but i cannot recall hreaing it in Patch Adams.....
any help?Hugh Clary wrote:

The "poem" is from the King James Bible 1 Corinthians chapter 13 verse 4: It is often used during the marriage of a christian couple.

hey Kayla

this isnt just any poem yes it is beautiful it is from God and this is what he tells us love is ... if u have a bible or know of someone who does it is in 1 Corinthians 13:4-8
God wrote the Bible to us like alove letter... and he wrote that to us to tell us what Love is...

Hey, D.O.G. the Bible is about God, not by him.


Les

A very interesting thread provoking considerable thought. Let me say this:

I loved the various Bible translations provided by Linda -- all in one spot and easy to see! As well, that extra context concerning “charity” meaning “loving-kindness, not giving money to good causes.” Likewise, Veronika’s observation about the original word agape, áãÜðç , meaning divine, unconditional love. Nice work. And thanks for the specific Biblical reference.

Here’s the kicker. Quite unrecognized, (by me anyway, till I was well into writing this!), that same Biblical quote is central to a favourite film of mine! “Trois Couleurs: Bleu.” It uses a recurring anthem, beautifully done, based on 1 Corinthians 13:1–13.

The soundtrack liner (and the subtitles) from the film states the translation as “Love is patient, full of goodness; Love tolerates all things, Aspires to all things, Love never dies.” So here we have yet another twist: French translated into English, even though the French script was based on a French Bible translation (are there more than one… I would guess so!), which was itself no doubt taken from the Greek in the first place!

That is, unless the film score took liberties with the French Bible’s version for the sake of the music or the director changed the wording to suit his own meaning rather than His meaning.

Ahhhhggggh! The mind boggles.

In any case, the repeated use of the Corinthians-based anthem is central to the film. And I suspect of the French word ‘love’ in *their* Bible is based on the Greek word agape, too. So I’m going to have to reconsider that film. And here I thought I got off easy just trying to figure out what the French mean by ‘love’ -- now I have to work out what the Greeks mean, too. Not to mention the Bible and the director (the film one, the one with a small d).

Serves me right for watching foreign films.

Hopefully, we are past the times when I’d be tried for heresy for suggesting that perhaps even St. Paul’s Greek version could have been based on an oral tradition that wasn’t Greek or even his in the first place. Another layer.

That’s where I had to smile about the author being God -- thank you Shine and Les. It took me back to Sunday school and later discussions. Is the Bible ‘written’ by God, or ‘inspired’ by God? Should we look for literal meaning, or take it as a mix of spiritual with historical context, and try to interpret it in present day context? The same could be said (with far less controversy!) about other writing. So I’ll leave the authorship question aside least it grows into a case of thread-baiting and diverting! (smile)

And instead observe how important just a single word can be to both a poem and a Biblical verse. Now THAT’s a lesson one always needs to remember.

And let me me throw in a thank you for the ‘bonus’ additions people very thoughtfully gave to the thread. It’s a gem. I feel smarter and more informed already for having read them.

Doug

I thought I had a fairly full collection of C.S. Lewis, but now I need it I find I'm missing "The Four Loves" (I wonder if I leant it to someone?) I was going to quote his definitions but now can't. I know he included agape and eros. What the other two were I can't remember.

>Hey, D.O.G. the Bible is about God, not by him.

That's not what zealots claim.

Still, if it were true, there would not have been so many (or any at all, for that matter) bibles printed with ludicrous errors in them:

[www.bartleby.com]

Best of the bad:

The Unrighteous Bible, 1652 (Cambridge Press). So called from the printer’s error, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall inherit the Kingdom of God?” (1 Cor. vi. 9).

The Wicked Bible. So called because the word not is omitted in the seventh commandment, making it, “Thou shalt commit adultery.” Printed by Barker and Lucas, 1632.

Hugh Clary Wrote:

> The Unrighteous Bible, 1652 (Cambridge Press). So
> called from the printer’s error, “Know ye not that
> the unrighteous shall inherit the Kingdom of God?”
> (1 Cor. vi. 9).
>
> The Wicked Bible. So called because the word not
> is omitted in the seventh commandment, making it,
> “Thou shalt commit adultery.” Printed by Barker
> and Lucas, 1632.

One imagines printer's apprentices giggling at the realization that they got away with it.

pam

I don't No where it came from All I know that it is such a Beautifully
speech
I Loved it the Moment i heard it ...it touched my "soul" Deep inside and i'll never will forget it

The word in french is "La charité", although some modern versions use "l'amour". "La charité" is smilar to latin translation of agape, caritas. L'amour/love is perhaps closer to our modern perception and modern use of the language - but it isn't as exact a translation as "la charité" - since agape was clearly not the same as eros - meaning sexual (or romantic) love. And love/l'amour can mean that as well.

This verse is so beautiful, i've been asked to read this passage at my cousins wedding. I just hope that i dont start crying because its such a meaningful and appropriate to this special day for her.This passage is just beautiful weather its the bibles representaion of love or the movies. :-)

love is always patient and kind... it is never jealous Love is never boastful nor conceited. It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other peoples sins but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse... to trust, to hope and to endure.. whatever comes.

i've been trying to get the words since forever even though i have the movie at home i still can never find the words to the poem and/or bible verse

that is such a sweet passage. people its a passage from the words of god. not a POEM

Strictly speaking, it's the words of a committee, giving us their version of the words of St Paul.

And who says God can't write poetry.

I think it doesnt matter who wrote those words.
They are just so beautiful. I have been watching the movie all weekend (i know its crazy) and i cant get enough.
Those words have so much power and meaning and i would want to hear them at my wedding too.

i think this is an awesome "conversation" that you guys are having.
you are all reading the bible!!! yay!!1
you think that this is the only passage in God's letter to us that still aplies to our lives today - be aware that there is plenty more where that came from!!!

maybe you should check it out!!!

>you are all reading the bible!!! yay!!1

Yahbut which one?

[www.bartleby.com]

nevermind all the translations and different words, the meanings are still the same! :D it's beautiful, isnt it? i love A Walk to Remember!! <3

& the Bible isn't exactly written by God, but it is a love letter from God, in a way. Just think of all the people, St. Paul included, as pencils :D God writes through them! :D

Psalm 137:8-9 always causes me problems.

[bibledatabase.net]

These folks are happy to point out every single one of such problems:

[www.landoverbaptist.org]

Bible quizes:

[www.landoverbaptist.org]

Caution - not for the devout!

As there are good and bad bits in the world, and the bible has been in the world and translated many times by those affected by the world, it is hardly surprising that there are some bad bits in the bible. In the context of the times in which it was written, what happened makes sense and the advice it gives made sense, too. To some extent, the same is true of the Qu'ran (I recently read a quote from it to the effect that the ink of the wise is more powerful than the blood of martyrs - something of a contrast to the 'rationale' for suicide-bombing) - and causes the arguments between moderate and fundamentalist Muslims.

The devout need to know what landoverbaptist are saying. I can only reply 2 Timothy 2 vv12-14 Luke 23 v 34 - and expect a flame from Eliot!





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