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fences, material goods, wealth, family values, birth, adulthood, responsibility or death.
Posted by: Ashley_Islas (---.tnt7.tpa2.da.uu.net)
Date: January 12, 2022 09:57PM

For my English class we had to choose a poem for one of the following themes: fences, material goods, wealth, family values, birth, adulthood, responsibility or death.

Do you all know any poems I would be able to use?

Re: PLZ READ HELP WITH POEM
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 13, 2022 12:02AM

Mending Wall
by Robert Lee Frost

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.
I let my neighbour know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
"Stay where you are until our backs are turned!"
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of out-door game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
There where it is we do not need the wall:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, "Good fences make good neighbours."
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
"Why do they make good neighbours? Isn't it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down." I could say "Elves" to him,
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father's saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, "Good fences make good neighbours."

Re: PLZ READ HELP WITH POEM
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 13, 2022 12:03AM

For A' That and A' That
by Robert Burns

Is there, for honest poverty,
That hings his head, an' a' that?
The coward slave, we pass him by,
We dare be poor for a' that!
For a' that, an' a' that,
Our toils obscure, an' a' that;
The rank is but the guinea's stamp;
The man's the gowd for a' that,

What tho' on hamely fare we dine,
Wear hoddin-gray, an' a' that;
Gie fools their silks, and knaves their wine,
A man's a man for a' that.
For a' that, an' a' that,
Their tinsel show an' a' that;
The honest man, tho' e'er sae poor,
Is king o' men for a' that.

Ye see yon birkie, ca'd a lord
Wha struts, an' stares, an' a' that;
Tho' hundreds worship at his word,
He's but a coof for a' that:
For a' that, an' a' that,
His riband, star, an' a' that,
The man o' independent mind,
He looks and laughs at a' that.

A prince can mak a belted knight,
A marquis, duke, an' a' that;
But an honest man's aboon his might,
Guid faith he mauna fa' that!
For a' that, an' a' that,
Their dignities, an' a' that,
The pith o' sense, an' pride o' worth,
Are higher rank than a' that.

Then let us pray that come it may,
As come it will for a' that,
That sense and worth, o'er a' the earth,
May bear the gree, an' a' that.
For a' that, an' a' that,
It's coming yet, for a' that,
That man to man, the warld o'er,
Shall brothers be for a' that.

Re: PLZ READ HELP WITH POEM
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 13, 2022 12:10AM

Market Square
--A.A. Milne

I had a penny,
A bright new penny,
I took my penny
To the market square.
I wanted a rabbit,
A little brown rabbit,
And I looked for a rabbit
'Most everywhere.

For I went to the stall where they sold sweet lavender
("Only a penny for a bunch of lavender!").
"Have you got a rabbit, 'cos I don't want lavender?"
But they hadn't got a rabbit, not anywhere there.

I had a penny,
And I had another penny,
I took my pennies
To the market square.
I did want a rabbit,
A little baby rabbit,
And I looked for rabbits
'Most everywhere.

And I went to the stall where they sold fresh mackerel
("Now then! Tuppence for a fresh-caught mackerel!").
"Have you got a rabbit, 'cos I don't like mackerel?"
But they hadn't got a rabbit, not anywhere there.

I found a sixpence,
A little white sixpence.
I took it in my hand
To the market square.
I was buying my rabbit
I do like rabbits),
And I looked for my rabbit
'Most everywhere.

So I went to the stall where they sold fine saucepans
("Walk up, walk up, sixpence for a saucepan!").
"Could I have a rabbit, 'cos we've got two saucepans?"
But they hadn't got a rabbit, not anywhere there.

I had nuffin',
No, I hadn't got nuffin',
So I didn't go down
To the market square;
But I walked on the common,
The old-gold common...
And I saw little rabbits
'Most everywhere!

So I'm sorry for the people who sell fine saucepans,
I'm sorry for the people who sell fresh mackerel,
I'm sorry for the people who sell sweet lavender,
'Cos they haven't got a rabbit, not anywhere there!

Re: PLZ READ HELP WITH POEM
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 13, 2022 12:15AM

If
---Rudyard Kipling

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream---and not make dreams your master;
If you can think---and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!

Re: PLZ READ HELP WITH POEM
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 13, 2022 12:21AM

Birth
---H H Rutledge

Birth is a mess.. fashionable undress,
A spiritual miracle for the main.
But how can a hugging become such a mugging
The moment my domicile is drained?
I was squeezed, flushed, wrenched and thrust.
I was pinched and rolled about.
When the tongs clamped on, was I so wrong
To consider another way out?
They sprang me to hang me upside down,
And paddled my rear till I scream.
The cries and cheers challenged my fears.
To go right back in was my dream.
I felt the warm reach of mom's arms beneath,
I was Life.. a born-to-be a Winner.
But wait just a minute, the doc will begin it,
"Say hello to a little 'ol Sinner."

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Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 13, 2022 12:23AM

Gerontion
by Thomas Stearns Eliot

Thou hast nor youth nor age
But as it were an after dinner sleep
Dreaming of both.


Here I am, an old man in a dry month,
Being read to by a boy, waiting for rain.
I was neither at the hot gates
Nor fought in the warm rain
Nor knee deep in the salt marsh, heaving a cutlass,
Bitten by flies, fought.
My house is a decayed house,
And the jew squats on the window sill, the owner,
Spawned in some estaminet of Antwerp,
Blistered in Brussels, patched and peeled in London.
The goat coughs at night in the field overhead;
Rocks, moss, stonecrop, iron, merds.
The woman keeps the kitchen, makes tea,
Sneezes at evening, poking the peevish gutter.

I an old man,
A dull head among windy spaces.

Signs are taken for wonders. "We would see a sign":
The word within a word, unable to speak a word,
Swaddled with darkness. In the juvescence of the year
Came Christ the tiger

In depraved May, dogwood and chestnut, flowering Judas,
To be eaten, to be divided, to be drunk
Among whispers; by Mr. Silvero
With caressing hands, at Limoges
Who walked all night in the next room;
By Hakagawa, bowing among the Titians;
By Madame de Tornquist, in the dark room
Shifting the candles; Fraulein von Kulp
Who turned in the hall, one hand on the door. Vacant shuttles
Weave the wind. I have no ghosts,
An old man in a draughty house
Under a windy knob.

After such knowledge, what forgiveness? Think now
History has many cunning passages, contrived corridors
And issues, deceives with whispering ambitions,
Guides us by vanities. Think now
She gives when our attention is distracted
And what she gives, gives with such supple confusions
That the giving famishes the craving. Gives too late
What's not believed in, or if still believed,
In memory only, reconsidered passion. Gives too soon
Into weak hands, what's thought can be dispensed with
Till the refusal propagates a fear. Think
Neither fear nor courage saves us. Unnatural vices
Are fathered by our heroism. Virtues
Are forced upon us by our impudent crimes.
These tears are shaken from the wrath-bearing tree.

The tiger springs in the new year. Us he devours. Think at last
We have not reached conclusion, when I
Stiffen in a rented house. Think at last
I have not made this show purposelessly
And it is not by any concitation
Of the backward devils.
I would meet you upon this honestly.
I that was near your heart was removed therefrom
To lose beauty in terror, terror in inquisition.
I have lost my passion: why should I need to keep it
Since what is kept must be adulterated?
I have lost my sight, smell, hearing, taste and touch:
How should I use it for your closer contact?

These with a thousand small deliberations
Protract the profit of their chilled delirium,
Excite the membrane, when the sense has cooled,
With pungent sauces, multiply variety
In a wilderness of mirrors. What will the spider do,
Suspend its operations, will the weevil
Delay? De Bailhache, Fresca, Mrs. Cammel, whirled
Beyond the circuit of the shuddering Bear
In fractured atoms. Gull against the wind, in the windy straits
Of Belle Isle, or running on the Horn,
White feathers in the snow, the Gulf claims,
And an old man driven by the Trades
To a sleepy corner.

Tenants of the house,
Thoughts of a dry brain in a dry season.

Re: PLZ READ HELP WITH POEM
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 13, 2022 12:24AM

I felt a funeral in my brain,
by Emily Dickinson

I felt a funeral in my brain,
And mourners, to and fro,
Kept treading, treading, till it seemed
That sense was breaking through.

And when they all were seated,
A service like a drum
Kept beating, beating, till I thought
My mind was going numb

And then I heard them lift a box,
And creak across my soul
With those same boots of lead, again.
Then space began to toll

As all the heavens were a bell,
And being, but an ear,
And I and Silence some strange Race
Wrecked, solitary, here.

Re: PLZ READ HELP WITH POEM
Posted by: anagora (---.range217-44.btcentralplus.com)
Date: January 13, 2022 08:37AM

The first stanza- of Burns' poem
You don't measure a man in terms of his wealth. The title might be translated roughly as 'for all that and all that' or 'yes, we've taken all those things into consideration but despite that ...'
So there's something to be said for honest poverty ( it doesn't have to 'hing' i.e. hang its head in shame - that's not the measure of the man - man's rank measured by the guinea's stamp (money) can tell you nothing about the man, he may be base and a coward. 'The man's the gowd for a' that', suggests that you have to look elsewhere to measure how good a man is.

In the second stanza -
rich men can have their fine wines and silks - its all 'tinsel show'! Again this isn't the measure of the man. Though we dine on homely fare and wear hoddin grey (I think here, it means plain grey clothes), and we may be poor, our virtue is in honesty, and a poor man is the king of men despite all these considerations: 'tho' e'er sae poor'.

In the third stanza, basically some people elevate themselves above their station in life, being titled, does not mean to say that you could be a fool and a buffoon. So, giving yourself airs and graces, just because you've inherited a title, is laughable. In the last two lines, then a man of independent thought, he's not bound by any such notions - he just stands and laughs at this.

In the fourth stanza - again, a man with an ounce of sense and pride in his own worth - this is the benchmark of the man -and if you want to rank men in terms of their worth,then surely, this must rank higher than all the wealth one might attain.

In the last stanza - Burns says that across the world, that come it surely must, in universal agreement, that with good sense and a sense of our own worth, men will be equal 'across the warld' (world) in a brotherhood of men.

We might see this poem as a social commentary on rank and position in the nineteenth-century - a hierarchal class-ridden society, too concerned with material wealth and status. Burns makes 'overtures' overseas, and there is a suggestion that he points to the United States of America as a model where men can be considered equal(at this time).

This poem still has relevance, when you consider how materialistic society has become, how we measure people now in terms of 'bling bling'. Burns might have said that we'd forgotten how important values like humility, honesty, and self-esteem, without all the trappings of wealth, really are.

Re: fences, material goods, wealth, family values, birth, adulthood, responsibility or death.
Posted by: LRye (---.brmngh01.mi.comcast.net)
Date: January 13, 2022 11:21AM

Check out Diane Ackerman's poem or poems in the book
of the title, "I Praise My Destroyer."

She also has a poem in that book that she dedicated (and wrote for?)
Carl Sagan (I guess they were friends) titled, "We Die."

I hope this is helpful.

That first poem is amazing.

Lisa

Re: PLZ READ HELP WITH POEM
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: January 13, 2022 08:24PM

Of course, if the kid bought a saucepan, he could cook the rabbit when he caught it.

pam

Re: fences, material goods, wealth, family values, birth, adulthood, responsibility or death.
Posted by: IanB (---.tnt11.mel1.da.uu.net)
Date: January 15, 2022 01:32AM

'The Moneyless Man' by Henry Throop Stanton.

See <[www.emule.com]>



Post Edited (01-15-05 01:33)

Re: PLZ READ HELP WITH POEM
Posted by: anagora (---.range81-154.btcentralplus.com)
Date: January 16, 2022 09:11AM

As I am a Scot and with Burns Night approaching I thought I'd try to research this poem a little more. My off the cuff interpretation of the poem wasn't far off, but for some good insight and further finer points, go to www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/burnsnight/poetry/guide_man

It's fascinating stuff, but then I'm a bit of a history buff! This poem was considered to be dissident (it might have been viewed as anti-monarchy and for this crime you could be sent to Botany Bay or hung and quartered) and for this reason it wasn't published until ten years after his death. Burns was obviously thinking of the French Revolution, and before that American Independence.

Re: fences, material goods, wealth, family values, birth, adulthood, responsibility or death.
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-05rh15-16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: January 17, 2022 10:56AM

That link wouldn't load. I'm guessing you meant:

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