as the main topic for this years HSC is 'The Journey' for my last major anglish assignment i have to find a poem thats abour PHYSICAL JOURNEY and i cant find any..anything that i find, when analysed turns out to be spiritual, inner or imaginative journey because of its symbolic meaning...anyone know any poems i would greatly appreciate it...

i ahve found one by robert frost but im not sure if it could be refered to 'physical joueny' what do you guys think? ...

Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening

WHOSE woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.
My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.
He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.


Fanx everyone..any help would be greatly appreciated im in great need of help

Have a look at this thread, its some of the discussion for the folks who had this homework last year.
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This 'physical journey' assignment appears to be recurrent in Australian sixth form English, and selection of a suitable poem seems to be the threshold problem.

A short, recent Australian poem that might do is 'The Walkers' by Kevin Murray, published in his debut poetry collection 'Jaywalking Blues' (The Domain Press 1999; 69 pages).

Only two stanzas of 9 lines each, but under copyright, so I won't reproduce it here.

The first stanza describes a couple's hiking activity from the man's point of view. Seeing 'their life together as a walk' he maintains that 'affection thrives at the edge of shared experience', so he leads his partner 'out towards the hills', hyperactively discoursing about clouds and about the vista from the summit, and plunging through thickets trusting that 'with luck and blind momentum' they will survive.

The other stanza describes how his female partner 'made weary by this slog' keeps falling behind and looking back, noticing details of all the environmental damage they have caused along the way, to which he is oblivious. The poem ends with:

'He calls ahead. She follows, well aware
that every step still links them to their past.'

If this appeals to you, Anisa, the book should be available in any Australian state library, or bookshop with a good poetry section, or direct from Domain Press at PO Box 625, South Yarra, Vic 3141.

T.S. Eliot's Journey of the Magi is also very physical, you can just ignore the last stanza in your discussion of it I suppose.

The Journey of the Magi
by Thomas Stearns Eliot

"A cold coming we had of it,
Just the worst time of the year
For a journey, and such a long journey:
The was deep and the weather sharp,
The very dead of winter."
And the camels galled, sore-footed, refractory,
Lying down in the melting snow.
There were times we regretted
The summer palaces on slopes, the terraces,
And the silken girls bringing sherbet.
Then the camel men cursing and grumbling
And running away, and wanting their liquor and women,
And the night-fires gong out, and the lack of shelters,
And the cities hostile and the towns unfriendly
And the villages dirty, and charging high prices.:
A hard time we had of it.
At the end we preferred to travel all night,
Sleeping in snatches,
With the voices singing in our ears, saying
That this was all folly.

Then at dawn we came down to a temperate valley,
Wet, below the snow line, smelling of vegetation;
With a running stream and a water-mill beating the darkness,
And three trees on the low sky,
And an old white horse galloped away in the meadow.
Then we came to a tavern with vine-leaves over the lintel,
Six hands at an open door dicing for pieces of silver,
And feet kicking the empty wine-skins.
But there was no information, and so we continued
And arrived at evening, not a moment too soon
Finding the place; it was (you may say) satisfactory.

All this was a long time ago, I remember,
And I would do it again, but set down
This set down
This: were we lead all that way for
Birth or Death? There was a Birth, certainly,
We had evidence and no doubt. I have seen birth and death,
But had thought they were different; this Birth was
Hard and bitter agony for us, like Death, our death.
We returned to our places, these Kingdoms,
But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation,
With an alien people clutching their gods.
I should be glad of another death.

Why ignore it? I'd argue that the 'hard and bitter agony' is what the journey led them to.

pam

hey guys
i'm back again, thanks for helping me the other day it was awsome anyway i'm looking for a poem that is related to image as i'm doing stictly ballroom.

thanks again
anne-marie

hey guys
i'm back again, thanks for helping me the other day it was awsome anyway i'm looking for a poem that is related to image as i'm doing stictly ballroom.

thanks again
anne-marie

Anne-Marie, please explain: what do you mean you are 'doing strictly ballroom', and how does that translate into needing a poem 'related to image'?

Hi my name is nita.
I'm a year 12 student looking for physical journey texts as well. I have another of his poems that was in the stimulis booklet that we use for our area of study. "The Road Not Taken" is an example of a physical and inner journey. As a physical journey it is set in the woods in autumn and the persona makes a decision which helps him learn more about himself. The physical journey becomes a metophor for the inner journey because the poem is so reflective and the persona is thinking about the significance of his life's journey.


"The Road Not Taken" by Robert Frost.

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be on traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as i could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

The took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear,
Though as for that, the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And bother that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, i kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I --
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

hi Ian B

oh i am looking for some realted material that is envolved with 'Experience through language : Image' my text is Strictly Ballroom, i dont need a poem as such but i thought that text type would be ok.

i am also looking for some relative material that coinsides with 'Institutions and individual experience' with the text Raw By Scott Monk, however i have some good info on that one so i think i am right :)

Thanks for your quick reply IanB

From Anne-Marie

Hi nita

my name is Anne-Marie and i was on here the other day and i found from Pam Adams
that the following was a very good text for physical journey, try this one out: :)

A Bushman's Song
by A. B. "Banjo" Paterson

I'm travelling down the Castlereagh, and I'm a station-hand,
I'm handy with the ropin' pole, I'm handy with the brand,
And I can ride a rowdy colt, or swing the axe all day,
But there's no demand for a station-hand along the Castlereagh.
So it's shift, boys, shift, for there isn't the slightest doubt
That we've got to make a shift to the stations further out,
With the pack-horse runnin' after, for he follows like a dog.
We must strike across the country at the old jig-jog.

This old black horse I'm riding -- if you'll notice what's his brand,
He wears the crooked R, you see -- none better in the land.
He takes a lot of beatin', and the other day we tried,
For a bit of a joke, with a racing bloke, for twenty pound a side.

It was shift, boys, shift, for there wasn't the slightest doubt
That I had to make him shift, for the money was nearly out,
But he cantered home a winner, with the other one at the flog --
He's a red-hot sort to pick up with his old jig-jog.

I asked a cove for shearin' once along the Marthaguy:
"We shear non-union here," says he. "I call it scab," says I.
I looked along the shearin' floor before I turned to go --
There were eight or ten dashed Chinamen a-shearin' in a row.

It was shift, boys, shift, for there wasn't the slightest doubt
It was time to make a shift with the leprosy about.
So I saddled up my horses, and I whistled to my dog,
And I left his scabby station at the old jig-jog.

I went to Illawarra, where my brother's got a farm;
He has to ask his landlord's leave before he lifts his arm:
The landlord owns the country-side -- man, woman, dog, and cat,
They haven't the cheek to dare to speak without they touch their hat.

It was shift, boys, shift, for there wasn't the slightest doubt
Their little landlord god and I would soon have fallen out,
Was I to touch my hat to him? -- was I his bloomin' dog?
So I makes for up the country at the old jig-jog.

But it's time that I was movin', I've a mighty way to go
Till I drink artesian water from a thousand feet below;
Till I meet the overlanders with the cattle comin' down --
And I'll work a while till I make a pile, then have a spree in town.

So it's shift, boys, shift, for there isn't the slightest doubt
We've got to make a shift to the stations further out:
The pack-horse runs behind us, for he follows like a log,
And we cross a lot of country at the old jig-jog.


The Bulletin, 24 December 2021

The Man from Snowy River and Other Verses
20 October 2021

>what do you mean you are 'doing strictly ballroom'?

For me, it's the best reason to buy loose-fitting skivvies.

to Hugh Clary

thanks for the info about loose fitting skivvies :) i meant to say studiing for class, sorry bout that:).

sorry about the context inwhich i posted my previous msg,
STANDARD module A: experience Through language : Image
for this unit i studied Strictly Ballroom. :)

thanks again

Bump, for Scoot.

Les

I am looking for related material for Raw by Scott Monk. I dont really know what kind of text would be good for Raw. If it is possible would you be able to help me find a related material for Raw by Scott Monk.
Thank you
Yours Faithfully
Lissyann

Hast thou Googled?

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its probably to late but i have one thatb we studied called
'this hole where i live' by elmo chattman an inmate in san quentin jail.
i awake with pig iron fantasies
weighting my thick skull down to this dingy pillow
binding me to thoughts of things
i cannot have
or do
or be
a ball and chain
strapped to my cerebellum
a barbed wire noose
around my neck
concrete sarcophagus gilded steel
good morning world
please count me among the living

the blacksmith's hammer strikes the anvil
trapping me
where those two hard surfaces meet
each deliberate blow
more malicious than the last
destroys me
forges me like steel
into something hard and cold
and unfeeling

the rich iron ore has been extracted
from the earth of my flesh
the strip-mined wounds
still fresh, bleed black blood
liquid onxy
dark as the vision of ten blind men
sad as the sound of all lost children
spilling more profusely
with each day, each year
each moment i spend
inside the cage
watching the back-hoe
dig my grave
as the time
digs a whole
in my mind

a siren wails inside me
crying like a child in cambodia
ignorant of napalm
but knowing it burns the flesh
reminding me
how great my need
to be free

everything has claws
and an appetite
especially this hole where i live
a large gapping mouth
with sharp teeth and powerful jaws
the ground swallows up
all dead things
belches back the dust
and remains indifferent.

i found your site in a search for some more info on RAW for the exam and i feel on this,,its probably to late to help...but you never know:)

That one for a 'physical journey'? I suggest not. That inmate wasn't going anywhere!

i neeed meanings for physical journey's

i would like to thank you all so much for the advice and help with the peoms. I am still looking for a movie on physiocal jourjey or a song, any idear please e-mail me thank you to all of you, you may have helpd me pass my HSC.!!!!!
I love this sight it's great!!!!

What about that Disney film about the two dogs and a cat finding their way home after they get left behind at the end of the holidays? Is it called Incredible Journey? I prefer the original over the recent remake.

Remember the titans: is that a good text for physical journey??

hi could you possibly help me analyse the poem 'The Journey of the Magi'
by Thomas Stearns Eliot
or help me find a link that will help me analyse this?
i really appreciate it thanx

I don't know if this is any help to you shaleena but a good song that I found the other day is "Two Beds and a Coffee Machine" by Savage Garden. Its all about a woman running away from an abusive man and taking the children away and driving for ages. And there are tones of movies that you could do for physical journeys. As Linda mentioned there is that disney movie "Homeward Bound", "The Lord of the Rings", "Speed", "The Mummy" and "The Mummy Returns". Really you can use any text where the person moves from one place to another because that's all a phyiscal journey implies and the journey doesn't even have to be a long one.
I hope that I was helpful. I'm going to have to keep looking for two more texts for myself.

OMG im sooo lost!! im in yr 12, well just started and i need 3 texts on the physical journey for a speech!!! i have 2 i need one more! if any of u guys could help it would be greatly appreciated!!! thanks!!!

Angie, click on Flat View below your post and view the responses above your own.


Les

The Journey of the Magi
by Thomas Stearns Eliot

"A cold coming we had of it,
Just the worst time of the year
For a journey, and such a long journey:
The was deep and the weather sharp,
The very dead of winter."
And the camels galled, sore-footed, refractory,
Lying down in the melting snow.
There were times we regretted
The summer palaces on slopes, the terraces,
And the silken girls bringing sherbet.
Then the camel men cursing and grumbling
And running away, and wanting their liquor and women,
And the night-fires gong out, and the lack of shelters,
And the cities hostile and the towns unfriendly
And the villages dirty, and charging high prices.:
A hard time we had of it.
At the end we preferred to travel all night,
Sleeping in snatches,
With the voices singing in our ears, saying
That this was all folly.

Then at dawn we came down to a temperate valley,
Wet, below the snow line, smelling of vegetation;
With a running stream and a water-mill beating the darkness,
And three trees on the low sky,
And an old white horse galloped away in the meadow.
Then we came to a tavern with vine-leaves over the lintel,
Six hands at an open door dicing for pieces of silver,
And feet kicking the empty wine-skins.
But there was no information, and so we continued
And arrived at evening, not a moment too soon
Finding the place; it was (you may say) satisfactory.

All this was a long time ago, I remember,
And I would do it again, but set down
This set down
This: were we lead all that way for
Birth or Death? There was a Birth, certainly,
We had evidence and no doubt. I have seen birth and death,
But had thought they were different; this Birth was
Hard and bitter agony for us, like Death, our death.
We returned to our places, these Kingdoms,
But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation,
With an alien people clutching their gods.
I should be glad of another death.

It's the point of view of one of the Magi- those who came to witness the birth of Christ.

The first stanza tells of them traveling. They are full of doubts and regret, and don't seem to know what they're looking for. The trip is not a comfortable one.

The second stanza tells of their arrival in Bethlehem. The two lines starting with 'Six hands....' are a foreshadowing of Christ's betrayal and crucifixion. Notice that he doesn't rejoice, but says it was 'satisfactory.'

In the third stanza, he says that he would do it all again, but that the birth of Christ led not only to Christ's death, but the death of the older religions.

pam

poems to do with physical journey

daniellle, click on flat view and read the posts above your own.

Les

hi my name is danni i need poms on physical journeys

Careful, Danni, or you might be misunderstood: 'pom' is Aussie slang for an Englishman.

Click on 'Flat view' and look at the posts above yours in this thread.

Then at the top of the thread, click on 'Search' and enter 'physical journey' in the subject and message categories to find other previous posts on this subject. After that, you could try a similar search of 'physical jorney' because there have been some posts with that misspelling.

Ian

I have to do a write up on that poem and I need help with it! Please help me!

Which poem are you referring to?

Alyse, i hope this isn't too late, mine is due on the 6th of novemrber.
Analysis on Physcial journeys.

It is a literal journey where a person actually moves. As long as the person actually physcially moves it is a physical jounrye.(pretty self explanitory)
They may travel a long ditance, or a short distance (within the same suburb)
Yet whilst journeys occur over land and sea, or even space, they tend to be accompanied by realisations and understandings. Some ojurneys result in learning about new people and places. A person may broden their horizons when they come into contact with people who do not see life the same way they do.
Yet do not think that all physcial journeys only ever rsult in positive learning and happy endings. it is very possible you will read a text where the journey is not positive. Perhaps a person has expected so much, and it turns out the complete opposite.

has anyone considered the lyric of the song "On the Road Again" by Willie Nelson?
i'm sure that's got to do with Physical Journey, but would it be considered as poetry?

anyways, can anyone establish a strong link between the poem "The Journey of the Magi" and anyone of the prescribed poems of Peter Skryznecki? what's the link in physical journey?

please enlighten me.

If the physical journey doesn't have to be by land, there are several sea journey poems by Edward Lear worth considering:

�The Jumblies�
[www.nonsenselit.org]

�The Owl and the Pussy-Cat�
[www.nonsenselit.org]

�The Pobble Who Has No Toes�

i would think the Owl and the Pussycat would be more of an imaginary journey.

it doesn't say a lot about actual physical journey and it's significance or meaning or even impact on particular individuals or groups of people. it'll certainly be hard to link it to one of the HSC subsribed Skryznecki poems won't it?

You may well be right, fc. Being unfamiliar with the HSC English syllabus, I find it difficult to understand (from all the posts on the subject in Emule) what the NSW educational authorities class as a 'journey' for purposes of this assignment, and how they distinguish between physical and imaginary. Also, the concept of a 'link' between texts is unclear. Can you explain?

does any one know where to find 'The Walkers' by Kevin Murray on the net?

>does any one know where to find 'The Walkers' by Kevin Murray on the net?

Go to your library and get a copy of his book Jaywalkers Blues, I think it could be found there.


Les

Les is right, except that the book title is 'Jaywalking Blues'. See my post third in this thread. The poem is very unlikely to be on the net, because it is too recent.

Ian

hi im trying to find related material for physical journeys, the problem hasnt been finding the related material, the problem is finding helpful notes that will help me to write a speech. I really want to do HORSE WITH NO NAME, but seriously can not find any notes that can help me understand this song better....IanB wrote:

>

IS JOURNEY TO THE INTERIOR A GOOD RELATED MATERIAL TO PHYSICAL JOURNEY..IS IT??????????????????////

Yes.

Les

hey guys

has anyone got anything to do with physical journeys producing change in those embarking on the journey?

thnx

Can someone please tell me what does the text secret garden say about the area of study journey???
thanxxxx

Its a journey into maturity. The girl is lazy and self-centred , the boy believes himself physically disabled. Through their friendship with Dickon and growing plants they grow themselves into nice people. The boy's father travels physically but makes no progress, the children travel spiritually in one place.

I need a poem and definition for "Inner Journey"! Thank You

Amanda, if that's a twofold request, it's not very thoughtful. If you aren't able to say what you mean by an 'Inner Journey', how can you expect anyone to suggest a poem about it?

As a first step, you had better provide yours, or your teacher's definition. Then maybe a poem can be found to fit.

Ian



Post Edited (01-21-05 07:18)

I thank you alot foir some poems as i am doing journeys "physical" in English and we need to find a lot of articles and a web site that relate to our midule "area of study so if you or any one else has info could they please let me know as i need it for when i start school and so i can get a better understanding of the subject we are doing

thanks Jas

More than you could read in a lifetime:

[www.boredofstudies.org]

well this site has been absolutely fantabulous in helping me with my english assessment on texts for physical journeys, i thank all the wonderous people who have posted messages in forums to help all us struggling hsc students to find our way.
But i was just wondering what is someones thought on using the film the Shawshank Redemption by Frank Darabont as a Physical Journey text?
would be great to get a reply, thanking all
Emily

hi...
i'm tiph...
i'm in yr 12 this year...
and i need to make a folio....and i need 2 of my own text and....related to class text which is....the road not taken by robert frost...
i think i jus found a poem...
buh i think i mite need more than jus poem...i tried looking for bookz...buh i don't read...so too bad...i guess datz out..
so i guess a movie...
buh i can't realli find one dat linkz to da poem....
HELP!!!

I have more than once expressed sympathy for students facing this miserable charade of an English syllabus for year 12 HSC in New South Wales; but, boy, you have to feel sympathy also for the teachers facing some of the students who have been deemed ready to take the course.



Post Edited (01-29-05 07:00)

Hi,

I am doing an assignment on physical journeys i was wondreing if anyoune has any ideas or article, poems, movie titles, song lyrics etc on this as i need it urgent and i do not no anything

thanks Jasmine

Hi guys i was wondering if anyone can help me Im panicking because i have an assessment due in 1.5 weeks and I don't have any example of lyrics for physical journey.Can anyone help me?

Hi guys i was wondering if anyone can help me Im panicking because i have an assessment due in 1.5 weeks and I don't have any example of lyrics for physical journey.Can anyone help me?Jas wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am doing an assignment on physical journeys i was
> wondreing if anyoune has any ideas or article, poems, movie
> titles, song lyrics etc on this as i need it urgent and i do
> not no anything
>
> thanks Jasmine

hey i was just wondering if anyone could help me find some related material for the book raw written by scott monk... it would sooo helpful!! thanx

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a good idea for physical journey is the song leaving on a jet plane by john denver. its a good idea cos it shows that physical journey is not always wanted and sometimes it can be a bad thing. it also has a link to the poem crossing the red sea as in both texts travel on a mode of transport. song: jet plane poem: boat. shows comparison of how immigrants are fleeing in hope of a better life, where as john denver is leaving because he has to and not because he wants to. there are many language techniques used in this song so it is an excellent choice for physical journey.

hey guys,
just started physical journeys myself and really need some ideas. I wanted to do inner and had it all planned but they changed it! I need poems, articles and movies etc. that are easy to relate to. I find it easier to write then. Please email me!

hey guys

im also looking for a text to do with the physical journey. I already have 2 but i need 1 more. i have 'jack in the beanstalk' and 'keh sanh' by cold chisel. Because we are studying poems at school i was thinking of an article or comic or something like that. i dont want a movie because i am very bad at analysing movies.

thanks megan

Hey does neone no of any lyrics for songs to do with physical journey's im thinking good ridance by greenday or holy grail by hunters and collectors?

Hi guys, i was wondering whether anyone can think of any songs about an actual physical journey, not an imaginative or metaphorical one. Also, does anyone know of a movie involving a physical journey that is not part of the teenage road trip genre?
Thanks guys

Incredible Journey has animals.
Around the World in 80 Days has grown ups.

Hi, just looking for some effective song lyrics that directly relate to physical journey

HI, MY NAMES MANAL, IM IN YEAR 12 THIS YEAR AND I NEED SOME PHYSICAL JOURNEY POEMS IF ANY ONE IS OF ASSISTANCE IM GRATEFUL THANX :)

hey i used the song Khe Sanh by Cold Chisel for one of my physical journey texts i thought it was pretty easy one to use, also 'Forest Gump' is a good movie but it may be hard to analise.

hmm....my english assessment task is on any types of journey (fortunately), but i couldnt find any "good" related texts. i'm in esl and, yes, it's very hard for me to analyse poems, so i won't even think of choosing a poem. but unfortunately, i have to relate those related texts to 2 poems from skrzynecki's immigrant chronicle, and one or two poems from BOS stimulus booklet. d'oh!! well...the only text that is kind of easy for me to relate with those poems is "harpot (philosopher's stone)" book. the rest, "ever after" movie, and the song "leaving on a jet plane" by john denver....well....they kinda made sense in the beginning....but when i was halfway of doing it, i got stuck coz i could hardly find any parallels/ linkages to those poems...so i was thinking maybe anyone can help me relate them in some way coz i really really suck at english....please...

i have no idea how i could possibly remeber an entire essay bsed in skryznecki and write it out in 40 mins any advice and i also need one more physical journeys text and i cant be a poem......help

i would like an exerpt from a book or play relating to physical journeys. now. please. thankyou.

hey, need help on english speech have to find 5 different text on physical journey e.g song.poem.article.movie .... help anyone its urgent =\ ??

hey i was wonder in if any one had any related material on strictly ballroom i dont have any idea wat related material would go with this text if any one has any ideas cos you please snd them my way, at milky_357mag@hotmail.com.

Greg

hehe hi guys, just givn a shout out to every1 in year 12, im doing it too... hopefully everyone will do well, thnx for the posters that helped every1 out including me ^^

hey, like everyone says, good lyrics are
- "good riddance" by Greenday
- "khe Sanh" by cold chisel
- "leaving on a jet plane" John Denver
- "a river" Bruce Springsteen
- "time of your life" Greenday
-"Proud Mary" John Fogarty

dunno bout poems, but movies are
-sweet home alabama (lyrics too)
-forrest gump
-shawshank redemption
-shrek
-homeward bound series
-fly away home
-road trip

hey peoples i ahve to write about one of the poems, either journey to the interior or road not taken its for inner journeys but i dont know which one would be better, and when i say inner journey i mean like growing as a person and looking for self-exploration etc

Some other texts related to physical journeys:

Books

Les Murray: a life in progress - P Alexander
The Ivory Trail - V Kelleher
Between A Rock and A Hard Place

Movies

Ice Age
Eurotrip
Shrek
Castaway

Music

Wide Open Spaces - Dixie Chicks
She's Leaving Home - The Beatles
Hotel CAlifornia - Eagles
Journeyman - Eric Clapton
The Last Resort - Eagles
The Sun - Marroon5
Everything But You - Thirsty Merc
Somebody Build A Bridge - Thirsty Merc

Poem

Eldorado - Edgar Allan Poe

Image

The Australian Swagman - Alex Poignant

I was wondering if i could get any related texts concerning physical journey, preferably a poem, feature article and comic strip or an illustration.

click on flat view please and read the texts above.

Hi there Everyone,

I have read everyones querys on physical journeys, I think this is all so much to absorb for the HSC 2005.

I was wondering if anyone knows of any gr8 poems on physical journeys?
this is the only difficulty at the moment finding a POEM....

Please help, it would be very much appreciated....

Thanks Tess

Tess, go here:

[www.emule.com]


Les

Hey guys,
I am too is studying physical journeys but i was wondering if u can help me find a diary entry or a reali gud feature articel on Physical Jouneys man please it would reli help me plz.......

Thanx much appreciation to all gud luk everyone in year twelve this year with HSC

Here's one, Sharon:

[hsc.csu.edu.au]


Les

hi, thank you les
um i just have one more question i have a movie on physical journey but unsure if the movie is one the movie is called Finding Nemo is this a good one and that poem The Journey Of the Magi does that have any comparison to Peter Skrzynecki Immigrant cronicles of one of his following poems Feliks Skrzynecki, Crossin =g the red sea, leaviing home, mirgant hostel, a drive in the country and post card plz reply thank you les
Sharon

hey guys,
im doing physical journeys like the rest of you and i hav my stimulus book in due i was wondering if anyone had materials related to the play 'Away' by Michael Gow. Please if anyone has anything i would really appriciate it especially cause im so behind...
Thanks

i am looking for 3 materials that are related to physical journey..Ones that can be easily analysed, thanx..

hey people,
i was wondering if anyone had some information on castaway and h0w i cud relate it 2 away.. if anyone has any info i wud greatly appriciate it coz my assessment task is due on tues n im really stuk..
thanks

hey
i needed some 2 n i found sum materials for Physical Journeys. The easiests ones i thought was..
-'Shes Leaving home', by the Beatles
- CastAway (the movie)
- Finding Nemo
- Alice in Wonderland
- Wizard of Oz
- The Truman Show

Hmm think there good 2 analyse..

Simon and Garfunkel - dont know the title

On a tour of one night stands
my suitcase and guitar in hand

Look at some old truck drivin country and western stuff - think about trains - sidecars - Jack Keroac on the road - the list is endless

All the best fellow seekers

Ginnyfly

Some examples of possible related texts for raw include:

Shawshank Redemption
Girl interrupted
Dead poets society
the green mile
farenheit 451
The pedestrian
Sleepers
Frances
In the name of the fater
Old ladies home
The unknown citizen

Hope they help ya out there all realy good realted material there a mixture of books and films.

I have been struggleing with english the whole year I wish I'd stummbled on this site sooner!!!!
Thank you for posting the information on physical journeys!!!!

Krystal

hey i am having a bit of trouble deconstructing my texts for english on physical journeys. i hav found the poem bushwalking by philip rush, an interview with a migrant girl samah and a image The Austarlian Swagman - alex poignant.

we have to answere the following questions for each of these texts:

* why did you include this text in your process journal?
* how does it relate to physiacl journeys?
* how does it reflect the process of 'motivation/obstacles/learning experiences - transformation/growth>?
* what did you learn about physical journeys from this text?
* what techniques used by the composer have you considered using in your own written composition?

any help deconstructing these would be great cause i am having alot of trouble and this assesment task weighs 25% of my overall HSC mark.

thanks heaps

Kasey, can you post copies of the poems, so we can take a look at them, to try and help you?

If you have to type them out, please check your typing for any mistakes before you post, because errors can lead to confusion in the comments.

Is the 'image' of 'The Australian Swagman' a poem or a picture?

Bushwalking

What inspires a man to climb
The mountains in the autumn-time?
Is it just because they're there?
Or for some idiotic dare?
Or just to prove one's fit enough
To complete a climb that's tough?
Each one of these, at times, is right;
But others climb for sheer delight.

Not for the joy of aching knees,
Or scrambling over fallen trees.
Not for the joy of carrying packs
That cause so many aching backs.
Not for the beads of perspiration,
But for the pure inspiration
Of living pictures unsurpassed
When one gains the peak, at last.

A city dweller cannot see
The view that lies in front of me,
As wearily I sit me down
On Acropolis' crown.
How can one describe the thrills,
As row on row of distant hills
Unfold before my very eyes
Beneath the blue autumnal skies?
And my mountain throne commands
Views of jewelled alpine tarns,
While patches of the brilliant snow
Reflect the sunlight's mystic glow.

Anxieties and troubles cease,
For here the world is all at peace.
Massive cliffs of sombre grey
Stretch towards the timeless day.
And beyond suburban reach
I see the golden native beech.
The photograph and artist's paint
Give but a feeble semblance faint
Of the beauty, vast and grand,
Inherent in our glorious land.
I climb the peaks for inspiration
Of God's incredible creation.



Interview 2
SAMAH

Each year, thousands of people migrate to Australia for various reasons, and each person�s experience is significant. An interview with a young Palestinian girl Samah, who migrated to Australia four months ago, assisted me with my study of �journeys�. A journey suggests a movement from one place to another and includes all the experiences that happened along the way. The young Palestinian girl�s physical journey to Australia includes experiences, which affect her both intellectually and emotionally.

Physical journeys occur over land or sea, and also tend to be accompanied by learning and understanding. Samah was born in a traditional Muslim family in Jordan, which is a small South Arabian country. She spent her childhood there and had started schooling before her family migrated to Australia, �I didn�t know much about other countries, but now I am beginning to learn about some of them. Australia�s society is more democratic than Jordan�s,� she says. This physical journey has given Samah an opportunity to learn about the world.

Physical journeys could also result in learning about new people. Samah has met many different people in Australia through her journey from Asia, Africa and the Middle East. �I cannot believe that there are so many cultural groups in the world. I find that their cultural values are different from mine, I couldn�t understand them at first, but now I think that these values are not wrong�. Samah�s interaction with other people has made her more tolerant of others. Her journey is about her belief, her understanding and acceptance.

Physical journeys often involve emotions, and many people can have a stronger connection with their homeland when they journey away from home. During the interview, Samah showed her sadness of leaving home: �It�s very sad to leave a place that you�ve lived in for more than 10 years�� She also shows her love and connection to her country: �I miss my homeland. Every week I find out about events that happen in my country, I�ve never been so connected with my homeland as I am now�.

Making choices is an important part of our life journey. The decision we make can effect our future. Migrating to Australia was a personal choice for Samah�s family. She gained a better education and future because of her life�s journey. Journeys are powerful; they challenge us, but also inspire us. �Language is a big obstacle in my journey, but every time I learn a new word, I am inspired because I know that I am developing� says Sam

Bushwalking

What inspires a man to climb
The mountains in the autumn-time?
Is it just because they're there?
Or for some idiotic dare?
Or just to prove one's fit enough
To complete a climb that's tough?
Each one of these, at times, is right;
But others climb for sheer delight.

Not for the joy of aching knees,
Or scrambling over fallen trees.
Not for the joy of carrying packs
That cause so many aching backs.
Not for the beads of perspiration,
But for the pure inspiration
Of living pictures unsurpassed
When one gains the peak, at last.

A city dweller cannot see
The view that lies in front of me,
As wearily I sit me down
On Acropolis' crown.
How can one describe the thrills,
As row on row of distant hills
Unfold before my very eyes
Beneath the blue autumnal skies?
And my mountain throne commands
Views of jewelled alpine tarns,
While patches of the brilliant snow
Reflect the sunlight's mystic glow.

Anxieties and troubles cease,
For here the world is all at peace.
Massive cliffs of sombre grey
Stretch towards the timeless day.
And beyond suburban reach
I see the golden native beech.
The photograph and artist's paint
Give but a feeble semblance faint
Of the beauty, vast and grand,
Inherent in our glorious land.
I climb the peaks for inspiration
Of God's incredible creation.



Interview 2
SAMAH

Each year, thousands of people migrate to Australia for various reasons, and each person�s experience is significant. An interview with a young Palestinian girl Samah, who migrated to Australia four months ago, assisted me with my study of �journeys�. A journey suggests a movement from one place to another and includes all the experiences that happened along the way. The young Palestinian girl�s physical journey to Australia includes experiences, which affect her both intellectually and emotionally.

Physical journeys occur over land or sea, and also tend to be accompanied by learning and understanding. Samah was born in a traditional Muslim family in Jordan, which is a small South Arabian country. She spent her childhood there and had started schooling before her family migrated to Australia, �I didn�t know much about other countries, but now I am beginning to learn about some of them. Australia�s society is more democratic than Jordan�s,� she says. This physical journey has given Samah an opportunity to learn about the world.

Physical journeys could also result in learning about new people. Samah has met many different people in Australia through her journey from Asia, Africa and the Middle East. �I cannot believe that there are so many cultural groups in the world. I find that their cultural values are different from mine, I couldn�t understand them at first, but now I think that these values are not wrong�. Samah�s interaction with other people has made her more tolerant of others. Her journey is about her belief, her understanding and acceptance.

Physical journeys often involve emotions, and many people can have a stronger connection with their homeland when they journey away from home. During the interview, Samah showed her sadness of leaving home: �It�s very sad to leave a place that you�ve lived in for more than 10 years�� She also shows her love and connection to her country: �I miss my homeland. Every week I find out about events that happen in my country, I�ve never been so connected with my homeland as I am now�.

Making choices is an important part of our life journey. The decision we make can effect our future. Migrating to Australia was a personal choice for Samah�s family. She gained a better education and future because of her life�s journey. Journeys are powerful; they challenge us, but also inspire us. �Language is a big obstacle in my journey, but every time I learn a new word, I am inspired because I know that I am developing� says Samah. The power of the journey has challenged her thinking and broadened her understanding of new places and people. Also, through her journey we have learnt about the importance of personal choices. Samah will continue her life journey with great passion � �I want to be a nurse and help people�.

Report written by an ESL student from Beverly Hills Girls High School after an interview with Sameh, a student at Beverly Hills Intensive English Centre.





and the website for the picture Australian Swagman is:
www.nga.gov.au/Federation/Detail.cfm?WorkID=34603&ZoomID;=3

thanks heaps for this

Looking at the questions-

* why did you include this text in your process journal?
* how does it relate to physiacl journeys?
* how does it reflect the process of 'motivation/obstacles/learning experiences - transformation/growth>?
* what did you learn about physical journeys from this text?
* what techniques used by the composer have you considered using in your own written composition?

The first one is for you to answer. Why did you choose these works? Come up with something that sounds logical- 'they were the first ones I saw' or 'I was desparate' doesn't cut it for teachers.

For the second, each of these discusses or shows a physical journey. Clearly, the swagman is going somewhere- possibly a long way, since the bicycle is loaded down. The poem tells us how it feels to climb a mountain- scraped knees, exhaustion, but also exhiliration.

The Saleh interview seems to go more to the third question- she is having learning experiences.

Fourth and fifth questions- you're on your own.

pam

I am not entirely clear what 'deconstructing' means, but I infer it encompasses the questions mentioned:

* why did you include this text in your process journal?
* how does it relate to physical journeys?
* how does it reflect the process of 'motivation/obstacles/learning experiences - transformation/growth>?
* what did you learn about physical journeys from this text?
* what techniques used by the composer have you considered using in your own written composition?

I have several problems with the poem given, for example,

1. Rhyming couplets in iambic tetrameter get old REALLY fast.
2. "Give but a feeble semblance faint" is purely rhyme-driven and is quite yucky.
3. Does commands rhyme with tarns?
4. "Not for the beads of perspiration,
    But for the pure inspiration"

First of all, one is forced to read pyoo-uhr in order for this to scan, plus the rhyme is an Identical one (as opposed to Perfect).

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5. He uses inspiration again later in the poem, matched with creation this time.

Sounds to me as if this dude wants to be another Banjo Paterson, but fails in the attempt. Here is his web page, for those interested:

[www.philiprush.com.au]

The questions, as posed, are also annoying and remind me of similar nonsense (way) back when I was in high school. Obviously one cannot give them the answers they deserve, but speculation is fun.

>* why did you include this text in your process journal?

Because it was given to me in the assignment, you silly goose.

>* how does it relate to physical journeys?

Duh ... because it describes bushwalking, which is itself a physical journey?

>* how does it reflect the process of 'motivation/obstacles/learning
> experiences - transformation/growth?

Could you be so kind as to re-state the question in English, please?

>* what did you learn about physical journeys from this text?

Mountain climbing ain't for me.

>* what techniques used by the composer have you considered using in your own
written composition?

Those that point out I should study more poetry before attempting to write any.