HAPPY LEAP YEAR!

It's an Egyptian trick. I think Osiris had an extra day inserted into the calendar because he was prohibited from being re-born on any day of the year. So he added a day to get around the prohibition. Something like that.

Tis one of my favorite days, too, Mary.

A day of re-birth and trickery!

February 29th is not, as I had always thought, Sadie Hawkins Day

Three micro- neurosurgeons were bragging on their skills while in their cups.
“Yea, they brought me a guy that lost all his fingers of his left hand. I got the nerves sewed so well that he can play piano today.”

“Hum, interesting, reminds me of the guy they brought me, both legs and one arm blown off. After forty-seven hours of intense surgery, he was back on the loading docks within three months.

“Well, listen, a cowboy riding his horse got hit by a freight train. All they brought me was his cowboy hat and his horse’s ass. I put him back together so well that today he is President.”

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it isn't? he is?

I believe Sadie Hawkins Day is November 15. Why it's that date, and why I believe it (since I don't ever recall having "learned" it) remains a mystery to me.

No mystery...thanks to Wikipedia I have become omniscient :


[en.wikipedia.org]

Sadie of course no relation, to Edwin Hawkins.


And before anyone who is musically challenged asks, here is his bio. [en.wikipedia.org] />

Les

I remember when I wrote GWYDU (Google What You Don't Understand) without spelling it out, and Gwydion thought I was being insulting to her, but she was just being a Gwydiot

Peter, one of my sisters was born on Leap Year so it has always stood out. An interesting holiday for sure.

The elementary school held a LEAP YEAR dance last night, which has absolutely nothing to do with Sadie Hawkins, but just thought I'd mention it.

Joe, according to Johnny's post, Sadie Hawkins day is somewhere during that week of November. Ironically, the first day of "hunting" season is November 15th up in this neck of the woods and it might as well be Sadie Hawkins day (10 days) by the show of women hanging out in the bars looking for a man.

Hey...I finally got a pop-up tent camper! We go to the dealership today to get a demonstration on how to put it up and take it down and get the car rigged up to tow it. Can't wait for our first camping trip in it!!

I really miss the wisdom and wit of Al Capp.

There is art :[www.youtube.com] />
and there are artists, but this guy is phenomenal: [www.youtube.com]

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Check this out


[www.youtube.com]

I liked the comment I heard the other day about McCain, that he spent 5 years in prison, and then went into politics, wheras most do it the other way round

Does anyone else get constant mocked for being a poet? They've just recently started using metaphor and anthimeria on me.

samitr

Who are they, samitr? Let them eat dust whoever they are.

It's common to American culture at least to dis poets, has been for a long time. Like Marty says so well, "Let them eat dust whoever they are."

When they start using litotes, then you're in trouble

Telemarketing anyone? Or perhaps the voice of reason: [www.youtube.com] />

Les

JAM SESSION BEGINS ON COSMIC POETRY CHAT IN TWO HOURS.

HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE.

2 am GMT, 9 pm EST and 6 pm PST.

[chat.paltalk.com]

nibble at the gristle
nibble at the gristle
pullin @ the T-bone that's bigger'n he is

I have to say Bruce, you're choices in internet mediums of communication are... I'd use the word "quaint" but my dictionary seems to be disagreeing with itself on the definition.

Well Perc,

Not quite sure why you think that Paltalk is quaint. I have tried about 50 different mediums, from mIRC to Userplane and finally returned to Paltalk once they gave the capability to actually link to rooms. The sound quality is the highest of those that I have used, it allows full streaming video, should we ever choose to use it, unlimited participants, control over who is speaking when, etc... etc...

I am open to hear other suggestions though if you think you know of something better?

Brucefur
PS: We are holding those poetry Jams at the same time, every Monday night.

Let's forget that for now, as I don't like being proven wrong. Did you see that post I made some time ago about Shogi? I wasn't sure as I think I may have posted it close to the recent breakdown.

Shogi, the japanese variant of chess, is likely among the most difficult and complex variants due to a single rule. One can choose to sacrifice their turn to place on the board any of the pieces they have captured from an opponent. This, along with various movement and rank rules, elevates Shogi far beyond regular chess. Apparently, the japs thought it was too easy.

Hi Perc,

No, I haven't ever played shoji before, but when I was about 11 or 12, a friend of mine and I played a variant whereby as long as the king had cover, he too could check. Now that I am older I try to play by the rules. lol.

Chess was originally just an extension of battlefield tactics, (Alexander made reference to to facing an Indian army that was arranged precisely as they would be on a chess board; he also faced some of his highest casualties there), so the reason you couldn't replace a captured piece was because... oh yeah, the bugger's dead! hehe. I am not dissing shoji. I would be interested in giving it a go at some point and time. I have played a little bit of Go and usually get my butt kicked, but still have fun doing so.

Thanks for letting me know about it.

Brucefur

An interesting insight. If I recall, the changing of alliance was common in japanese military history. Something about those willing to die for their cause being captured. Of course the pieces and even board itself (9X9) are different, I was merely pointing out the main change.

listen Nolon has been busy In love with a new lady. And I'm about to get a job locally..My Internet at home Isn't currently on..But I've been lurking In the background with a wishing I was here.

We all wish you to be here for what you add, but we're happy your life is alive, nolon, so keep doing what you do best and visit us when you can.

Peter

A note to all regular e-mulers.

I recently transferred the last of my e-mule postings to my p.c. If there is anyone else out there who still hasn't done this, I highly recommend that you do so while e-mule is in one of its periods of functioning smoothly.

A quick way to find your work is to use the search feature at the top of the page. Just make sure that you click on "all dates" when searching for older poems.


Les

Thanks for the reminder...I've been lax

JosephT Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

A waist is a terrible thing to mime....especially
if it belongs to Roseanne Barr.

Roseanne Barr.

Roseanne Barr, Roseanne Barr.
Speaks the truth, most uncouth.
Goes too far. Roseanne Barr.

She is the tougher skin of me.
She shouts what I hold in of me.
She shows the hidden sin of me.

Roseanne Barr.Roseanne Barr,
Spits a word I say unheard
Hell at par is RoseAnne Barr

She is the shrew's epitome
She speaks the evil wit o' me
She shows the woman's grit o' me

Roseanne Barr, Roseanne Barr
Mouth ajar can cut and scar
Makes me look too sweet by far.

How I LOVE my Roseanne Barr!

LindaBB

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I had forgotten I wrote that....thanks for reminding me....I think. Anyway, your lines are much better.

Joe

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Starve Gasol and rub the ball with raw meat.


--found poetry. From an LA sportswriter on how to beat the Celtics' defense.

Last camping trip, we saw a double rainbow. Also could view the Mackinac Bridge from the campgound. Also a pic of the camper.

Mary

Experienced tree climber wanted.
Must have valid drivers license.
Call 903-756-0000

Found poetry in Longview want ads today

[www.broadsidedpress.org] />

hey check out this website. they are looking for vectors.

"read all about it".

Your site keeps going down, can't seem to keep a connection for long. Just letting you know.

Now i know finally what Mittens told me about Emule going down or crashing sometimes when I was still new here. I am happy to say that I am an emuler for almost a year now. Sad that it is indeed a reality-- the crashing.

I used to follow Les' advice about copying and pasting, but I got tired. When I get old, I hope emule would still be around, and that will be the time I'll find my poems again.. should they still exist by that time. I'd rather let my poems be lost here at the mule than anywhere else... ;-)

The mule isn't exactly crashing this time around. There seems to be trouble with database pointers that causes problems with data location. Of course, this could be the early signs of another crash, but the last couple of crashes have been the result of hackers. They really didn't resemble what is occuring now. Unfortunately, there isn't much any of us can do about the current situation since it is nearly impossible to notify the site's owners or technical staff.

Joe

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I hope emule would still be around, and that will be the time I'll find my poems again..


Practically NO websites stay the same for 5 years and very few of them keep archived material as long as this one has. That's why I started filing my stuff away on my own computer and making a backup of that a few years ago.


Les

So how's everybody? I've been trying to catch up and have found some interesting goings on here lately. I'm a tad speechless. Things are hectic at work right now, but am enjoying the summer weather after a long spring. Miss everybody.

Mary

Any responses to Barry Blitt's drawing of Barack and Michelle on the cover of the New Yorker...or is it pure poetry?

People like me who don't always understand satire are taking it wrong and not realizing just what it is poking at....as well as Vanity Fair's response.

There is much discussion of this topic here: [www.google.com] />

Les

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Post removed due to Peter's subtle implication that my "thoughts" are unwelcome.

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That it does....and less grey areas

Which candidate represents the most radical change?

           O                    M

           B                    C

           A                    C

           M                    A                       

           A                    I

                                N

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Although I enjoy the cartoons posted after my question, I was looking forward to what various people might say about the New yorker cover. Then I was going to say what my response to the New Yorker cover was. I thought the points of view of Les and Johnny and Merc and Holly and Redmittens and K.Q. and Nolon and Mr. P. et al would be different from mine and would be worth hearing. Since this is a poetry forum, I thought the response would be both varied and thoughtful, not limited to one segment of the spectrum of opinions; and I thought her, in the fiv con thread would be the place to solicit such a non-poetic range of responses.

Peter

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Peter,

Your response might have been better had you come right out and said what you, yourself, think about it. I responded to your question and thought we might get some dialogue going, but nuthin'. Is there a particular response you are seeking or a particular e-muler you are seeking it from? Regarding the cover, I personally don't find anything poetic or funny about it, but I'm one of those people who don't like practical jokes or costumes much either.

Mary

p.s. Somehow I find it hard to believe you are enjoying the cartoons.

Mary,

I found myself mislead by the cover. At first I found it to be distasteful, that is, racist and stereotypical. Then I read the article itself. I found the cover had no relation to the actual New Yorker article. I was hoping to map elements of the cover to elements of the article. Since the article did not refer to any of the stereotypes illustrated in the cover, I found this a little confusing. I read around the internet a little and found that the artist said he was parodying right-wing attitudes toward Obama. I think he was also tweaking liberal 'left-wing' attitudes as well. Drawing everybody out regarding the stereotypes of terrorists, Afrocentrists, the 'unpatriotic,' [look at the flag in the fireplace], Muslims...etc.

That is the beauty of parody...it is so hard to pin down. The poetry of the thing is in its power to bring out feelings without being too specific. I felt if I stated my view first, it would prejudice the other responses.

I was genuinely interested in everyone else's view of the thing.

Thanks for addressing the issue.

Cheers,

Peter

That cover, in my opinion, is fiendishly clever. Fully comprehended, it's a work of genius worthy of volumes of study. However, it's creator is too clever, people won't get it. So, I think I'll tip the scale in favor of the good fight.

Of course, they might not have perceived the quiet tempest they unleashed, they may have merely thought it a funny dig against the idiots in charge and their supporters. But someone who takes pride in being clever is rarely so blatant. So why, oh why that cover?

No one of measurable intelligence would consider this a slight against the characters. They would see it for what it is, a mockery of anyone holding that view of the characters. Now what's clever about that? Not a damn thing. Unless you predicted the response. The people who didn't understand this rather obvious reversal would, due to their idiocy, respond as idiots do. They would be fearful, taking comfort in the "acceptable", thus saying the cover is "politically incorrect". The people who understood the actual intent of the cover, of course, would not follow that path. Their path would be questioning the reasons for misinterpretation by our beloved idiots. Now, that's the outside of this beautifully orchestrated device. The inside is far more fascinating.

The fools responsible for our current downward spiral are arrogant cowards driven by stubbornness and fear, unable to accept their weaknesses. The self-defeating defenses employed by those type of people, who, when faced with evidence of their inadequacies, are that of shifting blame. Ignoring their own flaws through a torrent of fury utilized in "passionately" defending their position. That is, they introduce into the argument irrelevancies, distractions, and refuse to return to the actual point. Now. These people have "politically incorrect" on the tips of their tongues. Don't step outside the lines. Do as your told. Blah, blah, blah. The leaders of our cherished idiots.

With the above paragraph eventually deduced by those who understood the cover, analyzing those who did not, a new question would present itself to those enlightened few. "There is no good beating a dead horse. What is the constructive purpose of the cover?" Ahhhh, here's the genius. The cover is itself was of minor importance, a means to an end. The goal was to stir up controversy. The subject of the controversy was also of minor importance, a means to the actual goal. The actual goal was exposing the inadequacies, and thus destructive traits, of our coveted idiots via a real-world, nation-wide debate while simultaneously providing an example of a method to overstepping them via the cover's misinterpretations, and the futility of attempting to sway them toward the good fight while their self destructive natures causing havoc on the state requires immediate action.

That, or I'm full of shit. But it was fun.

Thanks, Peter.

Percival,

Not to mention that a few people out of their audience have now stood up and paid attention not only to the issue, but to them. Controversy is great advertising and I suspect a few more geniuses have been added to their mailing list.


On a side note, did you hear about the guy who was behind Obama when he placed his prayer into the Western (Wailing) Wall in Jeruselum, removed it, and had it published in a newspaper? I bet they had a good week in sales too.

Mary

It should have a caption.

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If you were a bird, what bird would you be? I'd be a Tyrannosaurus rex. How about YOU?

Phororhacos !

[en.wikipedia.org]

Though this one has its appeal:

[en.wikipedia.org]

I'd be the type of bird that takes being called a "mentally retarded" "faggot", seriously. You got a problem with that?

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Yeah, sparrow, whatever.

[fficial%26sa%3DX">images.google.co.uk]

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Haha, yeah the bustard is a good one!

This is also a good one:

[youtube.com]

Good for what? You're a dick.

Dick bird
[www.urbandictionary.com]

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I have one, I don't know that I am one.

[www.harlequin-survey.org] />
Should we be worried? It's not as if the bug is a danger to our ecosystem or anything.

What do you prefer, to be rich and stupid or poor and intelligent?

In the Netherlands it is polite to say "u".
[www.answerbag.com] />

Last post

A third candidate emerges: [www.youtube.com] />
As shown on the Tonight Show 8/5/08


Les

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<[thedailytube.com]

Thanks Joe, I thought that I had posted THAT video when I first edited the post above yours. Goes to show, we should all read our posts before walking away.

YOURS is the link I had intended to post.


Les

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Funny comic you have above us, les. I find those supporting "mccain" fascinating. It's one thing to to believe lies, another to welcome them.

Continuing with the theme that everything is relevant to everything if you think of it in a certain way. A nice video of your future Ham on rye:


[videos.modbee.com] />


Les

Where do middle-aged men come from?

The Middle Ages, much like old people come from Ancient Egypt

Which amazes me that they were able to lift those big-ass stones

They say one of those blocks weighs the same as a locomotive, and they didn't even HAVE locomotives back then.....clearly Bermuda Triangles at work there

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I was going to say, "heaven?", but can see I'm probably way off. It's more likely the donut shop or hardware store.

This either has nothing to do with poetry or it has to do with the heart of poetry. I forwarded it to 48 people tonight after watching the video.

YouTube video of arrest of Amy Goodman tonight at RNC

[www.youtube.com] />
Amy Goodman and Two Democracy Now! Producers Unlawfully Arrested At the RNC

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
www.democracynow.org

September 1, 2021

Contact:
Denis Moynihan 917-549-5000
Mike Burke 646-552-5107, mike@democracynow.org

ST. PAUL, MN—Democracy Now! host Amy Goodman was unlawfully arrested in downtown St. Paul, Minnesota at approximately 5 p.m. local time. Police violently manhandled Goodman, yanking her arm, as they arrested her. Video of her arrest can be seen here: [www.youtube.com] />
Goodman was arrested while attempting to free two Democracy Now! producers who were being unlawfully detained. They are Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole Salazar. Kouddous and Salazar were arrested while they carried out their journalistic duties in covering street demonstrations at the Republican National Convention. Goodman's crime appears to have been defending her colleagues and the freedom of the press.

Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher told Democracy Now! that Kouddous and Salazar were being arrested on suspicion of rioting. They are currently being held at the Ramsey County jail in St. Paul.

Democracy Now! is calling on all journalists and concerned citizens to call the office of Mayor Chris Coleman and the Ramsey County Jail and demand the immediate release of Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar. These calls can be directed to: Chris Rider from Mayor Coleman's office at 651-266-8535 and the Ramsey County Jail at 651-266-9350 (press extension 0).

Democracy Now! stands by Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar and condemns this action by Twin Cities law enforcement as a clear violation of the freedom of the press and the First Amendment rights of these journalists.

During the demonstration in which they were arrested law enforcement officers used pepper spray, rubber bullets, concussion grenades and excessive force. Several dozen others were also arrested during this action.

Amy Goodman is one of the most well-known and well-respected journalists in the United States. She has received journalism's top honors for her reporting and has a distinguished reputation of bravery and courage. The arrest of Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar is a transparent attempt to intimidate journalists from the nation's leading independent news outlet.

Democracy Now! is a nationally syndicated public TV and radio program that airs on over 700 radio and TV stations across the US and the globe.

Video of Amy Goodman's Arrest: [www.youtube.com]

You know what I really hate? People who say aliens must have visited because of pyramids through out the world. They say the similarity of time periods and construction methods imply aliens came down, taught us to pile up rocks, and left. Really? Really? Or maybe it could be that that is the simplest way of building the tallest structures given the resources of those time periods, and that people had a lot of time on their hands.

It wasn't ALIENS...it was Bermuda Triangles that taught them

One look at the shape of them is proof enough

But from above they're square.

Regarding pyramids, people not only had a lot of time on their hands as Percival pointed out, but, in Egypt at least, the government had hundreds of thousands of slaves to deal with. One theory has it that the Egyptians forced the slaves into hard labor building pyramids to keep them too busy to revolt. There may be some merit to that theory, but I always wonder, why pyramids as opposed to squares or circlular structures like Stonehenge? Or, why not have them just dig holes in the desert?

Excellent point Joseph, I would have to agree there that it is certainly a possibility. An interesting group of information regarding slaves and the necessary measures to prevent revolt and such can be found in study of the Spartan empire. Where's that book.. "On the Origins of War and the Preservation of Peace" - Donald Kagan.. The helots, the slave's of sparta, in the time approximating 431-404 b.c., outnumbered the spartans 10 to 1, or some such number, it's in there somewhere. Very interesting stuff. It seems that the famous spartan military superiority was achieved on the backs of helots, as well as prevented it from being wielded without extreme caution. According to this, the only reason spartan men could devote such profound amounts of time to improving their martial might was because the helots were charged with maintaining the fields and like matters. But there was a catch, the spartans could not leave the helots unattended, as the helots would revolt, and thus could not stray far from home in war efforts.

As to the pyramids, think about it. Pure logic. What's the easiest way to build the tallest and yet most stable structure using basic materials and construction methods? A pyramid.

We could have this Alien v Predator debate all day....but the fact remains that it is clear that the Egypts had cell phones, as there is absolutely no evidence of landlines

It cracks me up when archeologists theorize about how the ancients built structures so high off the ground. Don't you think that people who could align the pyramids with true north and south might have been smart enough to invent scaffolding, or a ramp system? Heck, in Egypt they could have covereed each level of the pyramid in sand then unvovered it later.


Les

Well, keep in mind people these days have rarely seen an achievement of that magnitude. Yes, we build far bigger and complex things, but it's certainly easier. It could well be that such efforts simply could not occur to them.

Would anyone who knows how tell Keeper how to log back into the Poetry Forum here on eMule? I got an email asking for that information. Thanks, it would add to the richness of our process.

unless someone from emule replies or unlocks her user name for her, here is what i've had to do several times:

because my user name was associated with my email address, i started a new email address in hotmail (or yahoo). so that is what i suggest. set up a new email address in one of these and them come to emule and register as a new user, citing this new email address where it is required.

i've never been able to use any of my old user names once they ceased to work in the first place. every now and then i have NOT had to start up a new email address, but i've always had to come up with a new user name.

i'll bet someone else has an easier suggestion....(???)

hope she does whatever it takes, it would be good to have her back in here. (hi keep!)

Peter:

It is as Mitten says. However, after creating a new email address, one must look for the emule confirmation notice in their new junk mail folder (or its equivalent, depending on the email system). For some odd reason, I've never seen the confirmation returned to my active In Box, and I, as so many, have had to re-register with emule on many occasions. But, whatever it takes, please let Keeper know we want her to return.

Joe

Maybe some of our newest members could tell exactly how they registered.


Les

Aye. New email, junk mail folder for confirmation. She can't access her old account, simple as that, gotta make a new one.

If this works I'm going to write the biggest fluffiest stupidest love letter ever to Percy.

Oh Dear, I fear we've created a monster!


Welcome back Keep.


Les

I assure you that I am eager as ever to shoot you down. Pew pew.

Welcome back , Keeper! It is wonderful to see you aboard again.

Thanks Les!

Percy,

I would have it no other way Darlin'!

lifeisbutadream,

Sorry I don't know you by this name...but thanks ever so much!

Pew.

Sorry I don't know you by this name...but thanks ever so much!

Keeper, Khalida, formerly known as K.Q. is now lifeisbutadream.


Les

Careful keeps, one of these days you'll catch me in the wrong mood and find yourself obscenely pleasured.

If ever I were to take another course in reading
poetry, Ian would be one of the instructors I
would choose.

Peter

Joseph agreed with me on this and said I should tell Ian.

Thanks Les!

And thanks again K.Q. I've very much missed you!

Percy,

So you've taken up make believing huh? How cute!


Ange

Yes, I second that motion Peter and Joe. He has a fine ear, eye, and what seems to be an inate intuitiveness about poetry.

Actually I've been trying to cut back as much as possible. But I see your sense of humor has improves, how nice.

Hey, if you can't improve your looks you had better work on your sense of humor.

Now, now. Tell you the trust you kinda look like a girl I lost my virginity to. Emmmm, she was a bag of fun. Uhh, no, where was I going with this.. Ah, people are capable of far more change than they realize. My sweet keeps, I suggest you leave god behind though, I realize some people need it at some times, but try to think of it more as those nicotine patches, you gotta quit eventually =]

I like change. Especially when I've got enough to jingle it around in my pocket.

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