A few weeks ago, someone raised (again) the question: Does anything rhyme with ORANGE?
Someone else recalled the name GORRINGE but couldn't quite place it.
By chance (or fate, or nature's changing course, untrimmed) or because of the query, I found TWO Gorringes in the following days:
PERCY GORRINGE is one of Bertie Wooster's nemeses in P.G. Wodehouse, JEEVES AND THE FEUDAL SPIRIT
HAROLD GORRINGE is the antiques collector in Peter Shaffer's play, BLACK COMEDY.
Rhyme boldly!
Close, but the word was Bloringe, supposedly a mountain somewhere.
Henry Honeychurch Gorringe was from Richard Lederer's Adventures of a Verbivore, mentioned by ilza. Heck, we got three Gorringes now!
and probably all named for the same reason.......
pam
I have a book by Arthur Guiterman, with the following poem/explanation :
( there was a man named Henry Honeychurch Gorringe.
He was a naval commander who in the midnineteenth century
oversaw the transport of Cleopatra's Needle to New York's Central Park)
In Sparkhill buried lies a man of a mark
Who brought the Obelisk to Central Park,
Redoubtable Commander H. H. Gorringe,
Whose name supplies the long-sought rhyme for orange.
Does someone want to write "The Love of Three Gorringes"?
(for the non-music-appreciative, that alludes to "The Love of Three Oranges," Prokofiev's op.33)
An interesting side tradk:
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Les
I remember hearing a joke about Cole Porter inventing the word "cellophane" so that he would have a rhyme for "fellow thane" for his "Macbeth - The Musical"
I love Cole Porter and agree totally;
when all else fails, punt. As a poet you have all the artistic license
you need---coin your own words.
Lisa
so....was the FRUIT named first or the COLOR?
that's funny!!
The fruit is derived from the Arabic neranja, the colour from the fruit. But William of Orange?
He's no Eric THE Red !
How about a "half rhyme" or consonance such as: cringe, fringe, singe, etc. Or even wrench.
Regards, V.
nonce or thwice, at least
I suppose, if pressed, and I didn't care about the slop, I might use the word arrange or derange or the like. I know, they don't actually rhyme but could pass in a song.
"Forever shall the Wolf in me... desire the sheep in you."
How does everyone pronounce orange?
My new york way is R-inge
People from Florida saw Aww-ringe
but then again, they also say Flaw-rida
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Ornge, obviously. I suppose you also have a mispronunciation of portry?
poa -tree
is there a word that rhymes with ornge?
While peeling an ornge
I made a forlorn g-
esture.
Somebody needs to come up with a word that rhymes with orange!
The inestimable J.C., diarist for 'The Times Literary Supplement' recently pointed out that 'New Scientist' had published an article claiming that there are no rhymes in English for the words orange, purple, silver and month. With the natural doubt of an enquiring mind he challenged his readers to come up with "a rhyming octave involving all four "non-rhyming" words". Consequently in the March 18th issue last, Tom Donnelly won the prize with this very nice tetrameter "Inge":
"I'm Ing", the Dean said. "I abhor Inj."
And gloomily fed the orang an orange.
With a twinge he recalled how every month,
Disciplined for lisping (Dunce, not dunth!),
From the prefects' room young Cringe would hirple
With prospects drear and buttocks purple.
Maybe thus the products of my quill were
Doomed to be lead, he mused, not silver.
I hope he won't mind me copying it here; it's such an odd and clever piece redolent with the particular eccentricities of the English!
The inestimable J.C., diarist for 'The Times Literary Supplement' recently pointed out that 'New Scientist' had published an article claiming that there are no rhymes in English for the words orange, purple, silver and month. With the natural doubt of an enquiring mind he challenged his readers to come up with "a rhyming octave involving all four "non-rhyming" words". Consequently in the March 18th issue last, Tom Donnelly won the prize with this very nice tetrameter "Inge":
"I'm Ing", the Dean said. "I abhor Inj."
And gloomily fed the orang an orange.
With a twinge he recalled how every month,
Disciplined for lisping (Dunce, not dunth!),
From the prefects' room young Cringe would hirple
With prospects drear and buttocks purple.
Maybe thus the products of my quill were
Doomed to be lead, he mused, not silver.
I hope he won't mind me copying it here; it's such an odd and clever piece redolent with the particular eccentricities of the English!
Linda said:
"The fruit is derived from the Arabic neranja, the colour from the fruit. But William of Orange?"
I would say the colour. In Dutch, the colour is Oranje (and william is called Willem van Oranje). The fruit Sinaasappel.
The name of William of Orange derives from the Prinsdom (principality) Orange in the South of France (most likely named after the fruit, I should think). The Nassau part of their name (the name of our royalty is van Oranje Nassau) is derived from a region in Germany.
On top of that our national anthom claims that william of orange is loyal to the Spanish king [www.dordt.nl] />
Can now understand why nationalism never really got a hold on the Netherlands... ;-)
A propos, William Ralph Inge was the Dean of St. Paul's, 1911-1934. Apparently his sobriquet was 'the gloomy dean' and he has several aptly pessimistic quotations in google, amongst which: "Originality, I fear, is too often only undetected and frequently unconscious plagiarism." That would be one way of putting it. A sunnier person might have preferred to stress the interconnectedness of all things and the intellectual debts we all owe to each other. Still, if he has left no other lasting memorial then at least we have his name in the clever verse above
There's a science fiction writer named Dean Ing, just to confuse things!
pam
Hey folks
What's wrong with challenge, expunge, lozenge and scavenge ??
Uh, they don't rhyme? Well, perhaps for Emily Dickinson they do, but she was a case unto herself.
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However,
There was a young maiden from Torrance
Who was ravished while sucking an orange
Which turned her deep purple
Since, denying the slurple
Quite filled her with hate and abhorrence.
That rhymes quite nicely, of course.
Well, maybe not ...
Methinks a word rhyming with orange
Could be something as simple as lozenge
Now Hugh can't agree
But that’s fine with me
Do you think that he’s up to the challenge?
Sorry Hugh, according to my longman pronunciation dictionary orange, challenge and lozenge rhyme. However, the last syllable is unstressed, which of course makes you focus on the forelast syllable, which makes the rhyme awkward say the least.
I have not read the Longman, but it is definitely incorrect. Words must rhyme on the 'stressed' syllable. I understand pairs like 'vivid' and 'hid' are called 'light rhymes', but I believe the requirement for 'orange' is that it must have a 'perfect' rhyme.
Other strange kinds of rhymes are 'amphisbaenic', such as tail/collate, where the final syllable of one word is the reverse of its mate, and 'elided', where one word would be the perfect rhyme of another, if only the last vowel sound were removed, such as fervid/curved (elision).
For some other interesting treatments, see:
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thanks for the enlightment. The longman just gives the pronunciation, so it was my bad, not its. Never heard of the amphisbaenic. Interesting.
Corrin,Jade and Jerry
Love Orangeade and Sherry
To summarise what I think I know and have read about orange rhymes.
Gorringe is definitely an extant surname. I have met at least one person of that surname and have seen a shop front bearing the name, as well as the rhyme about H.H.Gorringe.
Eminem has used door-hinge, I believe, and I have seen it elsewhere in an internet search. This is the most satisfactory of the imperfect rhymes in my opinion. Lozenge,syringe, challenge,singe and other partial rhymes have their attractions but miss the mark, I think.
I have seen the suggestion of sporange, though I think its correct form is sporangium.
There are then forms which use two words eg foreign jokes, orange oaks
or similar ideas such as that I posted a few minutes ago:
Corrin, Jade and Jerry
Love Orangeade and Sherry.
I speak with a London accent and these last two examples work for me.
I have not seen reference to the porringer dish.Porringer clearly rhymes with oranger. Haliborange is a marketed brand.
That's it for the moment.