I was sitting back reading some poems and i love to look at poems and try to find the importance out of them and always try to think of three but i am having a little trouble with this one. you guys have any ideas

DeepThinker

For us who do not have it at our fingertips, it helps to include the poem in you post, and it increases the chances of a discussion. Likely once can find on-line, but it is all about time, you know. I think it was also a short children's mythical monster genre story...

E.

Elliot, go here: [www.poemhunter.com]


Les

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
'Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!'
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
'And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.


Sorry bout that

Uh...lg would have me work...

DeepThinker, just as I thought Mythical Monster genre in obscure and invented language. To see if there is any subtle message, what you might like to do is make a list of all obscure words; see if they have and definitions, including those 'rarely used'; if you can not find some, check to see if any were taken from real words. You may find that LC was just having word fun, but on the other hand there may be some obscure meaning. Whatever the outcome that poemhunter site may post your analysis.

E.

Elliot, this is not an obscure poem, someone has already done the work for you: [myschoolonline.com]

[www.waxdog.com]

[www.math.luc.edu]


Les



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2006 01:16AM by lg.

It has been discussed on Emule before too:

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>try to find the importance out of them ...

I am not sure what is sought here, but Jabberwocky is one of those poems that should be familiar to all students of poetry. It can be found in Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass, and has by now probably been translated into all the languages on earth. See also:

[en.wikipedia.org]

Okay, now I'm wondering- how do you translate words like brillig and slithy?

pam

uh, schiewert and glappe as far as I can tell:

Koeterwaal
Nicolaas Matsier

Het schiewert en de glappe muik
Graffelt zich in de vijchten
Maar heel sloef was de rontelguik,
En strave woelen krijgten.

'Hoed voor de Koeterwaal je, zoon!
Zijn scherp gebit, zijn reuzenzwaai!
Vermijd het Dubdubdier, verschoon
De glurieuze Beffesnaai!'

Hij nam zijn worpel zwaard ter hand
En speurde bij de Plingplongboom,
Maar niemand bood hem tegenstand,
En zo stond hij in kroom.

In ruffig denken trof hem daar
De Koeterwaal, met vlammend oog,
Die zwingend door het groene vlaar
Hem worvelend bevloog.

Daar ging zijn zwaard: van hup en hop,
Van zig en zag en zoef!
Dood bleef het monster--en de kop
Keek wel een beetje droef.

'Is hij ontzield, de Koeterwaal?
Werp aan mijn borst u, lieve deugd!
O kostbaarlijke dag! Kaneel! Kanaal!'
Hij gnuivelde van vreugd.

Het schiewert en de glappe muik
Graffelt zich in de vijchten
Maar heel sloef was de rontelguik,
En strave woelen krijgten.

lg, did I say it was an obscure poem? Na... I don't think I said that; said obsucre and invented language. And following one of your suggested links, I think I found the answer:

[www.victorianweb.org]

It likely was opium. LC was outa-here... never never land.

And lg, it was not I who was looking for the "work", the exercise would be good for our young friend here, DeepThinker. I'd like him to become a great poetry analyst like you, Hugh, Pam & Steve.

;-)
E.

Steve?
Who dat?